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Interesting news article re: Grenfell
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/fr...79206.html
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#2
There'll be skeletons popping out of closets faster than they popped out of the ground in Jason and the Argonauts as the various enquiries pan out......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFjNVTiI1c
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#3
Interesting. You can bet there will be some jail sentences handed out if any culpability is proved.
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Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.
*Hits call point*... "we are on test aren't we?"... Whoops 
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(13-07-2017, 07:38 PM)Harrysu Wrote: Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.

I think that will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, more interesting will be any testing and maintenance records and whether or not recommendations had been made and whether or not they had been acted upon.
Martin Wison
KGM Fire and Security Distribution Ltd.
Rochester, Kent.
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(14-07-2017, 08:28 AM)MD Martin Wrote:
(13-07-2017, 07:38 PM)Harrysu Wrote: Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.

I think that will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, more interesting will be any testing and maintenance records and whether or not recommendations had been made and whether or not they had been acted upon.

Agreed. Let's be realistic. Even the "bad" panels will work well if properly installed and maintained, some of them just aren't very friendly.
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When I was at North Kensington fire station, I recall smoke detection in landings at Grenfell which were fitted with powder coated cages over them to deter vandals. Many of the cages had lost the plastic coating as the yobs would hold a lighter there in an attempt to activate the alarm.

Unfortunately for them the SDs only control the AOVs so no alarm would be sounded!!!

We had a number of fires there - including one that vented out of the window, spalling the concrete outside and above the opening. Indeed, we had very few concerns about the flats. Our main concerns was the (then) council depot in the huge undercroft area beneath the whole Lancaster West Estate. With combustible materials, vehicles and gardening plant (petrol strimmers and the like) - all in a virtual basement setting, we thought this was our biggest problem (along with access). But that was well before they hung 'that' cladding on the outside

NB: I have no idea what systems were in place immediately before the tragic fire.
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(14-07-2017, 05:33 PM)Monkeh Wrote:
(14-07-2017, 08:28 AM)MD Martin Wrote:
(13-07-2017, 07:38 PM)Harrysu Wrote: Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.

I think that will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, more interesting will be any testing and maintenance records and whether or not recommendations had been made and whether or not they had been acted upon.

Agreed. Let's be realistic. Even the "bad" panels will work well if properly installed and maintained, some of them just aren't very friendly.
 Irrelevant or not, I was just curious, and most panels aren't bad, it's normally the users.
*Hits call point*... "we are on test aren't we?"... Whoops 
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(19-07-2017, 06:24 PM)Harrysu Wrote:
(14-07-2017, 05:33 PM)Monkeh Wrote:
(14-07-2017, 08:28 AM)MD Martin Wrote:
(13-07-2017, 07:38 PM)Harrysu Wrote: Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.

I think that will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, more interesting will be any testing and maintenance records and whether or not recommendations had been made and whether or not they had been acted upon.

Agreed. Let's be realistic. Even the "bad" panels will work well if properly installed and maintained, some of them just aren't very friendly.
 Irrelevant or not, I was just curious, and most panels aren't bad, it's normally the users.

Correct but how many professional Fire Companies install s##t.
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(20-07-2017, 04:12 PM)kevin hynes Wrote:
(19-07-2017, 06:24 PM)Harrysu Wrote:
(14-07-2017, 05:33 PM)Monkeh Wrote:
(14-07-2017, 08:28 AM)MD Martin Wrote:
(13-07-2017, 07:38 PM)Harrysu Wrote: Anyone know what system was in there? Been dying to find out what's in there, and can't wait to see the official report on the incident.

I think that will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, more interesting will be any testing and maintenance records and whether or not recommendations had been made and whether or not they had been acted upon.

Agreed. Let's be realistic. Even the "bad" panels will work well if properly installed and maintained, some of them just aren't very friendly.
 Irrelevant or not, I was just curious, and most panels aren't bad, it's normally the users.

Correct but how many professional Fire Companies install s##t.

I couldn't possibly comment on that  Biggrin
*Hits call point*... "we are on test aren't we?"... Whoops 
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