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repeater panels in shared sites
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houston we have a situation - shared site with a common conventional fire alarm. one part of the site (tenant area) is open different times to the main landlord area and the tenants want a repeater panel in their tenant area. the main panel is in the area of the landlord system and the repeater panel would be in the tenant area. who pays for this? Is there a defined responsibility for repeater panels in tenant areas? Or is it just a mutual and shared agreement? does it just come down to a risk assessment? And what are peoples views on active versus passive repeater panels in tenant areas? Do the tenants need to have control when the other site is closed or is it sufficient to warn them of a faults/fires in another area?

cheers for all your help guys...
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(14-06-2018, 08:53 AM)alonso Wrote: houston we have a situation - shared site with a common conventional fire alarm. one part of the site (tenant area) is open different times to the main landlord area and the tenants want a repeater panel in their tenant area. the main panel is in the area of the landlord system and the repeater panel would be in the tenant area. who pays for this? Is there a defined responsibility for repeater panels in tenant areas? Or is it just a mutual and shared agreement? does it just come down to a risk assessment? And what are peoples views on active versus passive repeater panels in tenant areas? Do the tenants need to have control when the other site is closed or is it sufficient to warn them of a faults/fires in another area?

cheers for all your help guys...

Reading that I would say that the landlord would pay for it and pass the cost to the tenants as the tenants are requesting it. As for control of the system that again would have to be agreed with landlord.
Peter Robinson




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(14-06-2018, 10:58 AM)sparky999 Wrote:
(14-06-2018, 08:53 AM)alonso Wrote: houston we have a situation - shared site with a common conventional fire alarm. one part of the site (tenant area) is open different times to the main landlord area and the tenants want a repeater panel in their tenant area. the main panel is in the area of the landlord system and the repeater panel would be in the tenant area. who pays for this? Is there a defined responsibility for repeater panels in tenant areas? Or is it just a mutual and shared agreement? does it just come down to a risk assessment? And what are peoples views on active versus passive repeater panels in tenant areas? Do the tenants need to have control when the other site is closed or is it sufficient to warn them of a faults/fires in another area?

cheers for all your help guys...

Reading that I would say that the landlord would pay for it and pass the cost to the tenants as the tenants are requesting it. As for control of the system that again would have to be agreed with landlord.

That's normally the approach I recommend, there is no set rule though,it can vary based on individual circumstances.
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#4
Working for a large housing association we have many shared buildings, when we refurbish a system we generally fit an active repeater in the larger, usually business, area under the flats.(if the fire alarm is a common system)
Having a business evacuated because of a nussience activation and them having no means of control over the alarm leads to problems we have found. I train up the RP in the area with the repeater and make them aware of their responsibilities, it's worked well up to now.
Costs are shared by all parties pro rata.
Bugger, I did isolate the dialer...didn't I?
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#5
Am I not right in saying tenants should not be resetting fire alarm panels, unless the repeater is just for fault notification.
Adi Bosworth
ADI Security Solutions
Fire and intruder detection
http://www.adisecuritysolutions.co.uk
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(14-06-2018, 09:30 PM)Adi Wrote: Am I not right in saying tenants should not be resetting fire alarm panels, unless the repeater is just for fault notification.

Spot on Adi
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(14-06-2018, 09:30 PM)Adi Wrote: Am I not right in saying tenants should not be resetting fire alarm panels, unless the repeater is just for fault notification.

Correct, we don't allow any untrained residents access to the fire alarm, we do fit an active repeater in the business units under our housing who need control for weekly testing etc.
We have had great problems with residents finding out access codes in the past!
Bugger, I did isolate the dialer...didn't I?
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