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Maintenance regs
#1
Hello all :-)

We've just been audited which as usual flagged up a number of issues! 

Whilst discussing the regs (section 6) we had a differing of opinions regarding clause 45.3.

I was always under the impression that panel / battery checks etc were carried out at least 6 monthly (45.3) whilst the testing of all devices / C&E etc were carried out over a 12 month period (45.4).

The issue comes with the visual inspection and whether every device needs to be visually inspected every 6 months?

On some of our sites that are visited 4 monthly this would mean carrying out the visual inspection on each visit! 
This would be impossible on some of our bigger sites.

I was wondering what other people thoughts were on this? or am I misunderstanding this myself??

Cheers  Huh Biggrin
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#2
The wording suggests the visual inspection should occur every 6 months, as it appears in the section relating to the routine attention required and mentions the 6 month benchmark. I don't see why this couldn't be spilt over the other visits on a 4 visit schedule though - visit 1 = 1/4 service and a walk around another 1/4 of the site , visit 2 a 1/4 service on devices in an area you didn't walk through before and a walk around the other 1/4.

Realistically for most jobs, a walk around the building is going to take no time, but I've had jobs too where it's just not practical to go to certain areas of the building more than once a year because access is so difficult.
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#3
Interesting, I'll have a look into this.

I don't do this at present and cant really see me doing this in the future on all sites.

As above with Mr M, do-able on some sites.
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(22-10-2019, 03:15 PM)Monkeh Wrote: The wording suggests the visual inspection should occur every 6 months, as it appears in the section relating to the routine attention required and mentions the 6 month benchmark. I don't see why this couldn't be spilt over the other visits on a 4 visit schedule though - visit 1 = 1/4 service and a walk around another 1/4 of the site , visit 2 a 1/4 service on devices in an area you didn't walk through before and a walk around the other 1/4.

Realistically for most jobs, a walk around the building is going to take no time, but I've had jobs too where it's just not practical to go to certain areas of the building more than once a year because access is so difficult.
Good morning gents.
I suppose that could work over 4 visits but would still be a struggle to comply over 3.
It does say that each detector should be checked to ensure the 500mm clearance is maintained (45.3 - b - 5) so technically you would have to inspect the ceiling void devices too. That would make it a whole different ball game!  Oh
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(24-10-2019, 07:41 AM)leighton1471 Wrote: Good morning gents.
I suppose that could work over 4 visits but would still be a struggle to comply over 3.
It does say that each detector should be checked to ensure the 500mm clearance is maintained (45.3 - b - 5) so technically you would have to inspect the ceiling void devices too. That would make it a whole different ball game!  Oh

The standard is prescriptive, but (using CV heads as an isolated example and presuming they have already been determined as being compliant etc) I think that asking the client whether he’s had any work done since the last visit would prompt whether or not you need to look deeper. Certainly four of the seven sub-clauses could be approached in this way. 

I don’t think the visual inspection aspect is designed to be too onerous, but more to identify changes in the building that would affect the coverage related to the required category. Sensors in open planned offices are unlikely to be affected by encroachment in the way that sensors in storage areas would be. And it’s worth remembering that a visual inspection is just that - you’re not required to perform a full verification of compliance or recommission of the system.
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