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Student accommodation fire
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-50445311

They're lucky no one died here. This is why you don't just ignore repeated unwanted activations.
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(16-11-2019, 01:00 PM)Monkeh Wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-50445311

They're lucky no one died here. This is why you don't just ignore repeated unwanted activations.

I was thinking the same when I heard one of the residents call in to LBC this morning. She said the fire alarm false alarmed almost daily so they never paid attention to it. That will be partly responsible to the maintenance company, so I hope they have been checking the false alarm records and put recommendations in place to tackle it! Otherwise they may have landed themselves in the sh*te!
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Not only were there false alarms but it sounds like it was one of those meaningless common areas only systems as it was barely audible in the flats from reports. If you are going to put an audible alarm in premises at all it needs to be up to the job and include flat sounders
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Probably as a result of a flawed original spec/strategy from the “Consultants”...
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#5
Stick a Gent in, it'll be grand.
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(16-11-2019, 09:10 PM)AnthonyB Wrote: Not only were there false alarms but it sounds like it was one of those meaningless common areas only systems as it was barely audible in the flats from reports. If you are going to put an audible alarm in premises at all it needs to be up to the job and include flat sounders

I just picked up one of our 5 storey buildings has a L4 in communal areas and the fire procedure notices requires evacuation when the fire alarm activates!
Bugger, I did isolate the dialer...didn't I?
Oops
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#7
You guys heard of the new Hush Pro? Its designed for Grade C applications in part 6. Should be made mandatory for buildings with sweaty students that can't cook for sh*t!!
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(16-11-2019, 11:10 PM)Dan Wrote: You guys heard of the new Hush Pro? Its designed for Grade C applications in part 6. Should be made mandatory for buildings with sweaty students that can't cook for sh*t!!

Once had a student block with some bedsits with “kitchen”area ok small cooker sink and a fridge! But install was messed up as some had optical some had heats, obviously those with opticals caused a false alarm or two. There was also concern as the cooker was near the door so if it did go up you couldn’t get out of flat
Discovery multi set so if smoke activated it sounds room sounder to alert person in room in case they asleep or just P****d and alerts staff so they can investigate  ....as and when heat goes = full alarm. False alarms stopped immediately, simple to use no extra bits for students to break
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(16-11-2019, 08:35 PM)Dan Wrote:
(16-11-2019, 01:00 PM)Monkeh Wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma...r-50445311

They're lucky no one died here. This is why you don't just ignore repeated unwanted activations.
Bit harsh blaming the maintenance company i think. They might not know about any false Alarms if they’re not reported
I was thinking the same when I heard one of the residents call in to LBC this morning. She said the fire alarm false alarmed almost daily so they never paid attention to it. That will be partly responsible to the maintenance company, so I hope they have been checking the false alarm records and put recommendations in place to tackle it! Otherwise they may have landed themselves in the sh*te!
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#10
If there is someone carrying out maintenance, they should be checking the log.
There's nothing to say they didn't check it and report the alarms, but if they didn't then they weren't doing their job properly and were just lifting the money.

The students could always be lying and the false alarms could have been a couple of times a month which can be hard to pick up in a log in amongst the weekly tests (which of course everyone does)
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