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My new kentec control master help
#1
Hi there I've just bought a kentec control master 600 of eBay for £100 which will be all working

I would like to know some facts about the panel before it comes

1 do I need software or can I program it from the panel?
2 how do I program devices into it?
3 is the panel reliable.
4 where do I get software if it needs it to program. Is there any possible way it can be programmed without?

It's an apollo protocol so you fellers know Biggrin

Chubb branded

Thanks
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#2
Probably picked the worst panel to learn on without software mate.
Whistle Admit to nothing, deny everythingWhistle
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#3
Good luck with that one, you really need the software to be able to programme those panels, what are you planning on doing with it?
Notifier ESD, Siemens Technology Partner, Autronica Specialist
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#4
(26-07-2015, 10:30 PM)designguru Wrote: Good luck with that one, you really need the software to be able to programme those panels, what are you planning on doing with it?

Upgrading my ctec cfp

Ah bloody hell do you know where I can get software ?

Plus Idk what level access 3 code is which has naffed me off btw do you know any level 3 codes for Chubb if so pm me please

I heard you can do abit of programming on level 3


(26-07-2015, 10:04 PM)Kibeth Wrote: Probably picked the worst panel to learn on without software mate.

Ahhhhhh can anyone help me on it do you think
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#5
CFP? Going from conventional to addressable then, unless you are planning on sticking a load of ZMU's on it.

I'll ask what others may be thinking:
- Is this for a 'hobby' system?
- Is it protecting a single private dwelling or is it a life safety system for premises under the Housing Act (e.g. HMO) or the Fire Safety Order
- Are you the end user or in the trade

As this is the public side there are some limits as to what assistance we like to give depending on the situation.
Anthony Buck
Fire Safety Technical Lead @ BAFE SP205 accredited company
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(26-07-2015, 11:24 PM)AnthonyB Wrote: CFP? Going from conventional to addressable then, unless you are planning on sticking a load of ZMU's on it.

I'll ask what others may be thinking:
- Is this for a 'hobby' system?
- Is it protecting a single private dwelling or is it a life safety system for premises under the Housing Act (e.g. HMO) or the Fire Safety Order
- Are you the end user or in the trade

As this is the public side there are some limits as to what assistance we like to give depending on the situation.


It will be protecting out building with wired in the top sheds and wireless down at the bottom.
I'm the end user who has purchased the panel.


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#7
Are you a fire alarm company or installer, bear in mind that if your not then you're taking a very big risk and i am sure other will agree that you are better of leaving that to the professionals who not only can ensure it's installed properly but also its commissioned , designed and maintained properly in accordance with BS5839 Pt:1 2013

I have seem to many occasions where unqualified people have tried to do things themselves and it ultimately goes horribly wrong
Notifier ESD, Siemens Technology Partner, Autronica Specialist
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(27-07-2015, 07:32 PM)designguru Wrote: Are you a fire alarm company or installer, bear in mind that if your not then you're taking a very big risk and i am sure other will agree that you are better of leaving that to the professionals who not only can ensure it's installed properly but also its commissioned , designed and maintained properly in accordance with BS5839 Pt:1 2013

I have seem to many occasions where unqualified people have tried to do things themselves and it ultimately goes horribly wrong

This is good advice, if it all goes pete tong and you are in court you will not stand a chance. Even the worst engineer stands a chance with even the poorest training.

Pass it on to a professional ( lots in here ).


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(27-07-2015, 07:32 PM)designguru Wrote: Are you a fire alarm company or installer, bear in mind that if your not then you're taking a very big risk and i am sure other will agree that you are better of leaving that to the professionals who not only can ensure it's installed properly but also its commissioned , designed and maintained properly in accordance with BS5839 Pt:1 2013

I have seem to many occasions where unqualified people have tried to do things themselves and it ultimately goes horribly wrong

I know the basics to the regs but I'm not doing it on a public property it's for the out building so
I know a few like ......

You can't put voice sounders in the same room as sounder as they can clash with each other.
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(27-07-2015, 08:00 PM)Ben Wrote:
(27-07-2015, 07:32 PM)designguru Wrote: Are you a fire alarm company or installer, bear in mind that if your not then you're taking a very big risk and i am sure other will agree that you are better of leaving that to the professionals who not only can ensure it's installed properly but also its commissioned , designed and maintained properly in accordance with BS5839 Pt:1 2013

I have seem to many occasions where unqualified people have tried to do things themselves and it ultimately goes horribly wrong

I know the basics to the regs but I'm not doing it on a public property it's for the out building so
I know a few like ......

You can't put voice sounders in the same room as sounder as they can clash with each other.

It doesnt really matter if your doing it in out buildings or not, there is obviously a reason you are putting fire protection in there and you will have to take into account your insurers, they will void your insurance if you cannot produce all relevant documentations to show its been installed and commissioned by an accredited fire alarm company.

there are not really any basics, BS5839 pt:1 2013 is a very complex and involved document and anyone who says they know it inside and out is not being truthful.

What category are you installing to?

You are changing out a conventional panel for an addressable so how do you intend to create loops? radial circuits with Line isolators, connect eol or are you going to run zone monitors and keep it conventional?

If you are rewiring, what cable are you using?

Is your existing spur compliant?

The list goes on and on, Honestly my friend, i should leave it well alone and let the professionals look at it for you, i know it will cost money but believe me if anything goes wrong it will either result in you being prosecuted in one way or another or losing money when your insurers dont pay your claim.
Notifier ESD, Siemens Technology Partner, Autronica Specialist
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